Thread 1 — April 25, 2023
OP's opening post (No.34629564)
I have intimate knowledge of what the US currently knows about UFOs minus the last two years.
- UFOs are primarily unmanned drones
- UFOs are built to spec each time they are deployed
- UFOs are created by a mobile construction facility that hides in the ocean
- Construction facility destroys anything that comes close to it and will disappear for days when approached aggressively
- US believes the facility has been active on earth for at least 100 years or much longer
Fire away on questions I'll answer what I can you won't be disappointed.
What is the main body of government collecting UFO information — the DoD, and if so which branch is most active?
It doesn't officially exist and I won't use the internal name on here either.
What about biological entities? Do all UFOs come from the same source, or are there multiple factions/groups?
The US seems to believe so yes. There have been encounters but my information is limited since my specialty lies elsewhere.
Does this have any relation to Oumuamua?
No.
Is there a working theory on the origins? Care to elaborate?
Quite a bit but we think the construction facility has been around since at least 4000 BC. See sightings/paintings from the early eras of history.
Has any form of intelligible communication been established?
Yes, it also depends on your viewpoint. They mostly want very little to do with us until we start to talk about war and nuclear options. It's one of the reasons why you see them so often at critical events.
Do they know who or what is creating these craft?
Yes, as mentioned earlier the mobile construction unit is responsible for their deployment and construction
Any potential that they are made by a higher branch of the U.S government?
Absolutely not.
What allows them to fly so fast, what technology?
Gravity manipulation and the materials they are constructed from.
They're piloted by an undersea intelligence, aren't they?
We think the construction unit is driven by AI. The response time to threats is almost instant and usually very calculated and well thought out.
*OP (continued):* The majority of UFOs as I mentioned previously are built to spec and purpose. This is why they are always different sizes. The contents and equipment usually mimic the intended purpose too.
Is the construction unit related to the one under the rock in that Scandinavian country that deploys within tectonic spaces?
No, this one almost never leaves the Bermuda Triangle.
Bullshit — governments have had advanced antigravity craft for a while.
You asked if the particular UFOs we study are the result of a foreign government not if other governments have shittier versions. Speed alone tells us what we are looking at.
Do the UAPs return back to the manufacturing unit?
Yes, some come in and leave the planet but very rarely. Usually, the same number that comes in goes out unless special circumstances arise. It feels more like a carrier but with construction capability.
What are the purposes of the UAPs? Surveillance of humans?
The US believes they are not here to harm us. They only seem interested in us once they realize we are destroying things around us including each other. One of the officials in charge said something that stuck with me. "They act like keepers of a zoo uninterested in the daily life of wildlife until there's a problem".
I can approach that facility without being attacked.
Lol, the last unit we saw approach the facility didn't even have time to communicate they were being attacked before it was over.
What's buried under the mesa on Skinwalker Ranch? Is that show legitimate?
No idea that the project (if any) is likely kept separate.
There were two rare elements found fused together under the mesa — what's going on there?
No idea about that either. The crafts we recover are built with numerous elements. Some aren't even obtainable here.
OP is a lying faggot if he's not back in 30 minutes.
My nap was good at least.
OP (continued):
Anon posts a YouTube video claiming to show a UFO's internals.
There is such a thing as looking at something too closely. You're looking at internals at best, they are also turned the wrong way.
GET FUCKING BACK HERE.
Keep firing away I will get to them when I see them.
Are they frens?
They cut their losses when crashes are recovered, Same with personnel. Zoo keepers aren't friends with the animals.
Are the entities native to Earth — an older civilisation, breakaway civilisation, or humans who escaped a previous cataclysm?
Limited expertise since my role is more craft/analysis. US believes they are foreign to our world, a previous cataclysm could make sense. They also show up in times of strife such as natural events.
The guy talking about approaching the area without being attacked is a Remote Viewer.
I lurked on other boards but haven't really been to this one since I was comfortable with the answers I had. I wasn't aware that was a thing on here. There were rumors among my coworkers that they had psionic abilities but honestly, it rarely comes up in a conversation. Give it a shot?
Have you tried sending in a raft of hippies? The AI may not recognize them as a threat.
Based on previous disappearances and acts of hostility we believe the construction facility (carrier) has learned what is and isn't hostile. Usually, it will just move away or stay deep under the water. It doesn't fire on civilian boats for example. Exceptions apply we have seen one or two go missing usually after sharp turns etc.
Any relation to Antarctica?
My section monitored just this craft and any interactions it attempted. A previous coworker did mention something in passing of Antarctica at one point but I ignored it if I'm being honest. Talking about other projects is considered career suicide.
Could the space orbs be headed to Jupiter — maybe a massive orb kept inside the gas giant?
No idea, if it is a project I haven't seen it. No orbs out of the construction facility just UFOs.
What units have been lost approaching this construction machine? Why not send a Seawolf, or the Jimmy Carter with its nanotech?
Everything you can think of really. At one point nuclear missiles were being toyed with again and we deployed fighters and a sub with serious intent. Everything except the sub was lost.
How did they conclude the UAPs are ET if they don't even know what's inside them?
They crash sometimes, parts fail and gravity engines near the surface of the planet can be like crossing an intersection. We recover these and sometimes find passengers. We mostly see drones now, back in the earlier days we saw a lot more piloted craft.
Why do you not know anything about the last two years?
Moved on from the project because of new management that didn't trust older proven methods.
Any details on what happened to that lost unit approaching the facility?
Normal approach details, pilot responsive and actively talking. The feed cuts out pilot still talking suddenly nothing. Poor guy likely had no idea it was likely a suicide mission. Based on what we've seen the construction facility has far superior weapons than the UFOs do. This weapon destroys the matter it hits entirely. It also shits on anything electronic in the vicinity.
So the contents/equipment share a pattern specific to the UFO's purpose?
Yes, usually when we find a thinner model for example it would have no pilot and a lot of sensory hardware. My favorite is finding one that is fitted for research, if we are lucky we find things we have never seen before. Before I left we were looking at what we thought was a lab of some kind for genetics.
Are you talking about the pear-shaped one or the burger-shaped one? Is it the burger ones?
Be more specific? … Size, shape and speed are usually the factors we use to determine what the purpose of the UFO is. We get it wrong sometimes. They can be quite large and both pear and burger shapes are known "builds". Both.
I had two orange orbs approach within 100 ft one night, translucent, dim, flying in 45-degree formation at about 50mph.
Research/science vessels sometimes have mobile light-producing "cameras" used for multiple purposes from scouting to keeping threats contained or at bay. These are shaped like hammers and when operated are extremely bright. Red lights are a sign of hostility or caution to deploy weapons. Orange lights are usually for spotting minerals or living things.
As soon as I blinked my flashlight they shot off at several thousand knots. Found similar videos near San Diego.
I'm not surprised, the range on those is quite large. The UFO was likely somewhere above you quite high up.
Is the underwater base near Catalina Island creating these?
No, this one has only left the Atlantic Ocean twice. Both times were before I arrived.
Are "aliens" human or humanoid?
Humanoid, very humanoid.
Do you know anything about abductions, forced breeding programs?
Bodies are removed before we are allowed to perform work. We definitely see some passing by hence changes in "Older proven methods" by new management.
Real true disclosure any time soon?
The Air Force is extremely frustrated with the lack of progress on their end. We felt similar but are unable to share details with them.
Do the aliens do the cattle mutilations?
Cattle mutilations. AI's hard no.
So Jacques Vallée is somewhat close to what's really going on?
I believe he was the closest so far to what's really going on. No one really knows and anyone claiming to is full of shit. We know quite a bit of about it all but the shit is about five steps ahead of us; I believe there isn't a situation in which we aren't bamboozled by them. From what I understand, we biologically operate on a point-by-point time basis and it's operating on a range of time.
It's a nebulous phenomenon that plays tricks — how do you study something that doesn't want to be studied?
You absolutely nailed it with this comment. The moment we think we start to grasp what's going on, it'll either throw a curveball with it's nature/intensions or seems to instigate global conflict. We're playing checkers while it's an hyperdimensional Magnus Carlsen
So this was a sort of AI design, advanced yet already prepared from the get-go?
Can you rephrase this? Basically when designed to let's say be a miner you will usually see hardware dedicated to resource collection on the vessel. If the vessel is something scientific you may encounter things like tools and as previously mentioned something akin to a lab. We thought of it more as a "I need to go hiking" so the construction facility builds you a car (UFO) and packs it full of hiking supplies and even adjusts the shape to fit what was packed.
Are there fewer piloted craft because the facility's population is declining?
No, the common consensus is that they are just being careful. I've heard recovery of living pilots usually doesn't go well for either of us. We suspect they piloted a lot of initial craft due to early complications (we also saw more crashes).
Do recovered bodies show any recognizable range of aging?
No idea about age, not my specialty, and asking about it would have been a net negative ESPECIALLY now. Previous higher-ups were getting better about being open with information since discovery happened quicker.
What do the passengers look like? Biological and/or android?
Bio
Do you know anything about Steven Greer, Lue Elizondo etc. — in the know, larpers, or controlled misinfo?
No idea, one name sticks out you didn't mention. Mentioning Bob Lazar by name would likely have you taken out back and put down like a dog. Do the math on why.
You said the phenomenon seems to instigate global conflict — that's a hell of a claim. Any particular incident? The nuclear site incursions?
Precisely. Another massive problem is determining which aspects of "encounters" is physically real. There's too many reputable cases where physical evidence is present (a good baseline for most people) but the details, and occupants drastically change. None of the information presented by them seems to be of any real value, even "tracking" them through whatever produces their emission seems suspect (albeit reliable on the surface).
Out of everything ever found regarding UFOs, what's your personal favorite?
"New" engine was deployed with a very large model that I had never seen before. We usually see three to five gravity producing "engines" This one had seven. Favorite object or find? Probably the "lab" since we never fully understood how it worked before it was destroyed.
Does a meaningful distinction between scientific study and amusement still exist for them?
This was before my time but they talked about a "bus" UFO that had more occupants than hardware. Most of the intended purpose appeared to be for physical viewing. I wondered if they ever just wanted to look at the animals.
How long until we can hang with aliens?
Have any retarded cousins that destroy everything they touch? When do you want to see them again?
Anons report psychotronic/psionic devices — a recurrent theme.
This reminded me of something in my first year. UFO crashes they remove the bodies well before my team arrives. We start to look and the craft is unpowered at first, a few minutes later the craft powers on and starts to close up. We radio out and get a response from the unit removing one of the occupants (alien) that they are working on it. Ship powers off and the other team asks if we are good to go. No mention of how access was possible, I suspect the pilot may have interfaced with the ship by remote or psionic ability.
The orbs had a translucent outer shell but a solid inner core.
Lots of tools they use produce light. If this is still about the "orb" the shell you may have seen was just the light around the device I called the "hammer".
Are there more than one construction facility? There are lots of USOs off the West Coast of the Americas too.
I suspect there may be since we only watched the Atlantic Ocean and the UFOs we track normally don't stray far from home base. Asking about it would have been a bad move.
Are you talking about the MCU in the Pacific or the Arctic? Burger shape or pear shape?
Atlantic, I don't know of others. The mention of something in the artic was weird and brief when it came up. Burgerish, I misunderstood and thought you meant the UFO's not the carrier/construction facility.
OP, talk about hybridization of the human race — you're a shill or UI.
I wouldn't fuck my retarded cousin but I also understand I'm on 4chan.
I read some UFO navigation systems require an ET whose personal wavelength is attuned to the craft's neural network.
This tracks somewhat for me. When we look at the craft we usually have to force certain things to work. Two teams come behind mine so that could be dedicated to understanding of the craft.
What do they look like physically? Usual grey type or big ears? Anything about their culture, names?
Imagine the typical "Grays" you see on TV. I've seen two corpses so maybe there are different species but I've never laid eyes on another. Rumors mostly. They almost never want anything to do with us. Mentions of destruction or warfare apparently change their attitude pretty quickly.
Why did the UFOs harm all those people in Brazil? By accident or do they not care?
Sauce? Might let me give you more insight. … If found they usually monitor us. If approached at an uncomfortable distance they flee. When cornered it doesn't end well. Their tools can do harm to us even for just scientific purposes. We think they just don't care.
Do you believe we are under their control in some way, or were at some point in history?
Possibly but I have no way of knowing. The higher-ups I worked for seemed hellbent on discovering more about them. Usually not a quality found among controlled beings.
What were the main reasons for the crashes?
You'd be surprised how many mistakes they make, especially the further back you look. One area they seemed to avoid like the plague we suspect is due to issues with gravity and flight. Before they figured it out we collected quite a few mishaps there. They've tried to shoot some down mostly over nuclear incidents but failed miserably.
Did you see written symbols in the craft?
Yes, usually marked by doorways and key objects. Written language appears frequently on tools and critical items.
It reads like their objective is to observe and preserve.
I agree. The idea was pitched that they are waiting for us to mature or perhaps something bigger to arrive and they don't want us to ruin the planet in the meantime.
What's the reason for the uptick in sightings?
Once again my knowledge was cut off about two years ago. If you mean very recently my guess would be the Russians and US having a little secret dance amongst themselves. When nuclear ANYTHING gets involved we see large deployments for long periods of time. Strife seems to be the catalyst.
What's your scariest experience with the phenomenon? Your favorite?
Doors closing on us as mentioned above made me wish I had brown pants. Still fascinated with the "lab" we found. It was damaged by accident and I never really got much time with it.
Are you aware of any foreign ayy tech that was successfully reverse engineered?
Yes, we used to laugh at Russian and Chinese designs. We stopped laughing at China when they produced an operational (but buggy) version of their mining equipment. Still stumps most of our engineers, China also lies out of its ass but from what we saw we deemed it operational and working. Countries listed above have flight-capable craft, just not very good ones.
*OP (continued):* I'm honestly surprised no one has asked about the energy source or internals. Heading out for the night but will be on tomorrow to answer more.
What are the chances OP is a Zookeeper posting from inside the craft for the lulz?
Pretty low, those UFOs are too fast and the pilot is in some sort of pod in one part of it. Oh and despite appearances the center is a hollow hexagon.
Why doesn't recovery of living pilots go well?
One example was shortly after I joined they said one was downed but two occupants were alive. The first team couldn't get close without being attacked. Aliens never seem to recover their lost UFOs for whatever reason so they just waited a few days until they died then recovered the UFO. Hostility is usually their last option.
(Reply to a poster hinting at recruitment/direct knowledge.)
Genuinely confused about what you're asking me. Recruitment isn't something easy if that's your goal. They usually recruit people with extremely clean background checks and I never saw anyone under 35.
What is the energy source? You mentioned Bob so I think I know already.
Correctish the power source is E115 the thing no one talks about is that usually, they seal it within the craft because it produces its own gravity field. Bob Lazar handled E115 which was already pulled out which is rare and weird. Protocol now is that only one person is allowed to handle E115. I was forbidden from touching or interacting with it. We still have trouble producing this shit too.
How do UFOs travel — like the Tic Tac and Bob Lazar reports where they seem to jump/stagger through spacetime?
This is common when moving at high speed from a standstill or slow speed initially. Gravity distorts time and the object inside the field can "stagger" when traveling.
I've heard the craft can detect the presence of a camera and when someone is filming.
Not unless the craft is put into a mode to detect a lense no. If the UFO is standing still or hovering though they won't miss you. You can see a face like you're standing in front of someone a couple of miles out doesn't look like a camera though their eyes are different.
How are you able to talk about any of this? Didn't you swear to secrecy?
Yes, liver cancer sucks.
Wouldn't the government have their eye on you as a loose end?
I'm not going on national TV or radio. I'm on a 4chan board, I'm sure they look at stuff like this but cancer makes you a little feel different.
Did you or coworkers experience strange things outside of work?
No, usually most people working there had no prior interest in UFOs or at least feigned not having interest.
"Ask Me Anything" but your larp is bad.
"I'll answer what I can" … Learn to read Anon
Not true — most zookeepers love their work and love the animals a great deal.
I've wondered if some of them do like us. They definitely have the ability to destroy us.
The spheres are a type of unmanned surveillance drone.
Shaped like a hammer but when activated yes they appear like spheres due to the intense light. They see light differently and looking into the sun for them isn't an issue like it is for us. I can't speak for the psionic abilities if any since I've only heard rumors in passing. We believed the lack of communication was inherent to their personal beliefs about us. As mentioned previously but active serious discussion about destruction gets them going.
Do you think they play a role in stopping rogue entities/dangers from space?
That was another theory yes. We think they are more interested in keeping the planet safe from us. Two main suggestions are that we don't spoil the planet before they arrive and take it from us or they are letting us evolve and grow while preventing devastation.
What do you know about the remote viewer 001 Joe McMoneagle's claim (hyperdimensional aspect)?
Sadly not enough to give you a good response. Remote viewing is a very strange thing; it's shown to work at times but most of the time it doesn't (or the conclusions have fuzzy connections, as if forced). As for the interdimensional aspect of it, I don't believe there's anything actually interdimensional-ly happening; it's just our best way to try and grasp/perceive what's going on behind the veil. From what I understand, whatever is behind the phenomenon has the ability to manipulate matter/energy in similar ways that we can manipulate information (we can create 3D realities and manipulate them via our understanding of machine code and linear algebra). It also seems to be able to play around with spacetime, almost as if we are sitting on (or perceiving) time that's been homogeneously transformed (into projective space) while they are free to move about homogeneous space. If they haven't entered the projection space, then they could freely move about our space without interacting with it until they collapse their space/coordinates into our projective space (normalizing their position with their homogeneous coordinate)
Why does image analysis of the original UFO always show weird stuff?
Gravity and the reflective nature of the craft usually.
Am I right that the disco lights are just air absorbing radiation and being saturated by it?
No
What materials are these UFOs made of?
That answer gets complicated quickly. Short answer is an alloy that we cannot reproduce but only repurpose. This alloy is kind of like a "film" that fits over the frame of the craft. I mentioned they were built to spec that's exactly what I mean the shape is always efficiently designed. The actual frame itself is heavier and composed of more elements. Both of these alloys have a lot of elements we cannot reproduce. One of the main problems when repurposing these alloys is getting them hot enough. They absorb heat very well and shaping the metal is a tedius process.
Can you walk through the process of identifying the contents of a crashed UFO?
First team leaves that deals with occupants and initial discovery. We arrive and meet with an external member of the team who can touch and examine parts we are not allowed to interact with. We never have to cut our way into the UFO. We enter the first order of business is checking for E115 then leaving the ship together to send it away. We return and look for any tools and lose objects that can be extracted. We then start to strip any specialized components on board such as sensory equipment or navigation. We leave and a third and fourth team arrive likely to remove the bulk of the craft.
Tell me about the mobile construction facility making them.
Shaped like an extremely large UFO but as one mentioned more of a "burger" design. Almost never leaves the Atlantic Ocean in fact it will sit through hurricanes and only move elsewhere to release or receive a UFO. No visible weapons or "cockpit" from sat footage. It also does not use any lights, unlike other UFOs.
Are there no other things making UFOs?
Yes, UFOs arrive and depart Earth but very infrequently. These UFOs are usually quite large. The US has been itching to get its hands on a "freighter" UFO when inbound or outbound but the chance has never presented itself. Leadership openly stated securing one would result in promotion.
What about the saucers with multi-colored lights, or triangle craft?
Never seen a triangle UFO. Lights are usually on bigger vessels and are sensory in nature, they are also used to spot each other.
You wouldn't trust these people to work on your car engine.
I'm not here to convince anyone. You'll notice yourself coming back to things I've said over time on your own as understanding increases.
OP (continued):
If the Air Force is confused like you say, why is it the only agency not cooperating with congress in the AARO?
You might get a laugh out of this. The USAF is kept in the dark. We operated above them, a close coworker wondered if even the president knew. Namely, Trump because we both thought he would just tell everyone.
Any idea what they might be waiting for?
Personally, I think they just want us to grow and become sentient. UFOs arrive all the time and dock with the mobile construction unit. The way I see it travel time is quite fast, if something was coming to destroy us it would have arrived already.
Senators/presidents said finding out the truth made them cry and fear for their offspring.
I've always suspected my department was under a much higher one with more information. I can't speak to any horrors or worries since none were mentioned unless we were pitching theories. As I stated above I think a lot of US top brass don't even know about it. I heard the phrase "Fuck Bill Clinton" thrown around regarding access to information. I'm pretty sure he asked if I'm not mistaken.
Is remote viewing actually a thing on here?
Is this an actual thing on here? Genuinely curious. Would have lurked more if I had the time.
Are they human-looking or something else? Something from pop culture?
They are smaller than humans and look like your typical "Gray" aliens you see. Holes for ears and they can look at very bright objects without being blinded. I've never seen one move their mouth but I've also never interacted with one.
What do you know about Operation Fishbowl, the Varginha crash, Roswell, Operation Moondust?
Operation fish bowl — Nothing. varginha crash — Nothing. roswell crash — They were accurate on some things. The material could have been internal components or small pieces of the alloy around the craft. The alloys I saw look different from the pictures. Opetarion moondust — Rumors only.
What do you think pic related is? [orange glow photo]
That is a target ballon used by the USS Trepang I believe they were in the Arctic or Antarctic. It is not a UFO/UAP. The orange glow is obviously from being hit by weapons fire, the flammable gas used to rapidly inflate the balloon caught fire.
(Challenged on the balloon ID.)
You asked for my opinion and I gave you one. The photo also isn't the best. I judged based on what I've seen previously.
Besides the Russians, do any Europeans have data or programs researching this?
They are mostly in the dark and probably on the same level as the USAF.
Are you with the OPRP? Did SOCOM put up that public contract to build a UFO as a honeypot to catch non-human actors in defense contracting?
No. … No idea. From my limited knowledge of the bio side, I doubt they are trying to infiltrate us. They seem to know a lot about us. Abductions still occur mostly in areas with contamination or disease.
Did you hear anything about a US secret space program (Corey Goode, Gary McKinnon's off-world ship names)?
Yes, the US wants to be able to leave the solar system with their craft and explore. They were working tongue-in-cheek with the Russians before I left. I'm sure the invasion of Ukraine put a stop to that rather quickly.
OP (continued):
Do all nations coordinate their study of the Bermuda Triangle factory, or does each do its own thing?
Each of them do their own thing. US is pretty greedy with what it finds. We will usually extract information but never offer any in return.
What is the mining tool China supposedly reverse-engineered capable of?
Hard to explain if you haven't seen it. Basically it extracts the minerals via beam/light directly out of the rock. It has the ability to "fill" the rock to some degree. China was able to figure out how it works and make a similar version. The problem with the one they built is it only operates for a few seconds before it runs out of power. They still don't understand E115. It also exploded one time and they had to remake it.
Are the made-to-spec craft just the metal spheres from the latest AARO hearings? There seem to be lots of orbs, discs, and Tic Tacs — not a huge variety.
Yes this is exactly why they always look so different. Things like Triangles and hard edged squares don't exist though. Pill shapes are extremely sought after and some we think are "freighters". The best analogy I can give for the variety/spec comment is think of it like wraping food in tin foil on a plate. It's a bad analogy but you get the idea, usually they will always be round or oval sometimes even pill shaped. The tin foil fits the intended function of covering everything without squishing it.
Even MJ12 stories suspect the president didn't have a need to know.
Staff at our agency were usually older and had been there forever. This tracks when considering term limits.
(On the "crying and fear" claim.)
You make me worry I've missed things.
Many abduction stories seem malevolent.
Previous post I mentioned tools. I think the harm they cause is the same as cutting open a mouse to check the local population for signs of bad health in a population. Collateral damage.
OP (continued):
Do they just not like humans but like the planet? What's to stop them from culling us all?
They could absolutely destroy us if they wanted to. They have started launch sequences before that we suspect were tests on "what they are dealing with". My personal view is they have to stay out of our way but keep us from destroying ourselves. I imagine life elsewhere in the universe often destroys itself.
Will we get more answers/disclosure, or will the coverup continue?
At one point they briefed us about opening up information about the craft but not the construction unit. Nothing happened for months. New leadership shows up suddenly its back to bullshit and secrets again.
The USAF must have close-up images and video — you'd think they'd know the most.
The USAF's goal is to fight other countries. They have footage but it was mostly discovered and recorded by sheer chance. The Space Force however will be an entirely new thing. Their focus is similar to ours with a sprinkle of disinformation.
Are all craft related to this factory and greys?
The ones we looked at yes.
Or are there more species coming here?
Possible but I wasn't made aware. It wouldn't shock me. I've wondered if we are being "protected" from others.
Why are you refusing to answer these specific questions?
I could have just ignored you. See your local politician for examples.
Do we produce E115, or is it collected from other craft and recycled?
We tried to produce it and failed. We produce a shitty variant of it and use it for certain parts we build. Most of what we use for things that cannot be replaced is recycled. Our ability to rehash their shit has gotten better slowly.
Or is it used up to the point we need to produce it to continue testing?
They set aside certain amounts for research. Most of it goes towards reuse.
Is there tech gained from these craft that the military or civilians widely use today?
A lot of your stealth aircraft sport smoother designs for one. Learning to track them also helped with targeting software. Laser technology comes to mind since it's a crippled version of what they use. Most of what I saw was way above us. It's hard to put the "hammers" and how you see through them into words. It's not like a drone camera and it's not a clear image (to us at least).
Can you clarify "abductions occur in areas with contamination or disease"?
They have a distinct fascination with radiation. Remember how I mentioned they don't go far from home base? When Fukushima happened the construction facility deployed multiple UFOs to the location over multiple weeks. They were also very interested in Ebola at one point. We can't confirm abductions there since the local population is... You get the idea no one cared.
According to Elizondo, the Italians seemed to have a good grasp — is there another UFO factory in the Mediterranean?
Starting this thread and seeing everyone mention the Artic has me wondering if there were others. It would make sense with other sightings since as mentioned previously "far from home" is rare.
Does the moon hold anything of interest?
No, that I'm aware of. We know that UFOs entering and exiting the atmosphere do not go towards any known planet often.
Are the flying orbs just scouts/research drones?
Do you mean orbs in the sky? Or do you mean landed craft deploying them? I've mentioned previously that there are tools that are shaped like "hammers" They emit extremely bright light and are used as a sort of drone or scout. They are able to view almost 360 degrees and detect everything from minerals to bio. If a human encounters them they usually are deployed to keep watch and figure out when to wrap up and leave.
Do they interfere with our science or investigations?
Yes, they do not want to be studied. They also do not collect downed craft or occupants it seems to be an "oh fucking well" approach. E115 is the exception they don't seem to enjoy the idea of us toying with it.
Do they seem to learn when craft get caught? Do they become harder to capture?
Yes, there is an area they actively avoid in Mexico among others. They also deploy more drones than piloted craft unless absolutely necessary. Yes.
Is the technology they reproduce increasing rapidly or lagging for years?
I wouldn't say it's an increase in technology. It's more like adjustments/better understanding of how to operate. It's one reason we thought "about 100 years" for the first deployment of the construction facility. If were here for years we would have seen the majority of all adjustments made.
Is your dept using AI to learn more about their tech?
Not when I was around last no.
*OP (continued):* Taking a break for a bit but will be on later tonight.
Does the factory produce any signature — heat, electromagnetic? How do you track it?
Both, we rely mostly on detecting the gravity it produces. It normally doesn't produce heat outright. When it does we believe it's in the process of construction since a small heat buildup can be detected when a craft returns or exits. We think this happens when it's being broken back down into parts or assembled. We can only detect these heat signatures when it's near the surface of the ocean so sometimes a UFO will pop out on us.
How do you know about other countries' efforts?
We don't obtain the information directly it's passed along to us. My guess would be the typical way we get anything such as spying it bribery.
Why does the USAF not know about other countries' efforts but your department does?
My department sits above the USAF for UFO recovery and information in the same way the USAF sits above me on military plans for Ukraine. We were told at the time if we had to give away information only tell the public what the USAF knows. I'm pretty sure other countries know departments like mine exist.
Do they know about US efforts?
Russia and China yes. Others it depends on the level of information. Some governments still don't know aliens even exist or aren't sure.
How do we know you aren't an FBI agent or glowie?
There's no way for me to prove that to you. You should always be asking though. All I can say is pay attention to things as time progresses and you'll be able to look back and see I was right.
The government knows about them but only at the "Majestic" level?
I stated before I'm not naming the department. The term "Majestic" was considered outdated.
Do the symbols you saw remind you of any Earth symbols?
No, just what I mentioned.
What do you make of the Eric Davis memo?
Can you link it for me?
How many craft do we have at the moment?
I don't know. I can tell you I've seen about 18 different models pass through for testing and research.
Is Lockheed Martin involved in reverse engineering?
They are a great company, aren't they?
Can you describe some of the other tools found on wrecked craft?
We have found things as simple as basic tools akin to tweezers to the lab. One that sticks out to me was an oval-shaped silver ball that would change colors based on how close it was to a source of energy. Another would be a sheet of metal that allowed you to view bones by placing it near someone's hand etc.
Can you describe any injuries or deaths involving alien craft?
I've witnessed no deaths or injuries aside from corpses. I never got to see one we had with an abductee but they weren't sure at the time if she died on impact.
Does this image mean anything to you?
No, but I feel like I've seen it.
*OP (continued):* Taking a break for a bit but will be on closer to tomorrow night.
*OP (continued, on secrecy):* They thought we were way too open with our operation. I'll never understand this. The current implementation of compartmentalization and "complete" secrecy is a fool's errand. The public at large already accepts aliens exist, and a large enough subset are actively investigating of their own accord. 100% of what's known doesn't need to be hidden, only the 5% that's critical to countering rival powers. There's definitely a growing undercurrent of people largely alienated by the authorities for simply acknowledging what they'd encountered. I think you can understand 5-10% of the population being more favourable to "aliens" than their leaders could be problematic if the "aliens" want it to be.
*OP (continued):* I'll be in and out tonight. I'll try to get to everyone.
We've been told aliens use us for food/subsistence.
Never found any food on board. Could be because they remove it before we arrive.
Are they going to invade humanity en masse?
I think wiping us out would be easy for them currently. No idea why they would wait.
What do you know about E115?
What I described above. Has its own field of gravity but it is weak on its own.
Is it really a stable isotope of element 115?
Yes, I'm no expert in that field though we are given the basics.
How would you interact with it?
You can hold it. Removal is done very gently though.
Where is it typically found within downed craft?
Compartment near the engine, usually not far from the center of the craft. If the craft has a frame with a center piece we have to extract it from an angle.
Fake — how can an element be antigrav? It would fly to space.
Maybe my explanation was bad but I feel like it's just your reading comprehension. It emits a weak field of gravity it doesn't float away or hover.
Why would they allow you to investigate them?
I think they just cut their losses. We don't get much opportunity otherwise.
Couldn't it be on purpose to see how much you can discover?
Just looking at the way they operate I doubt it.
Isn't it dangerous that the Chinese have this tech?
The US is quite upset over it. They won't trade either because they know we will trade in bad faith so they aren't exactly wrong.
Are all models powered by E115?
Every model I've seen operates this way. I've always wanted to see inside the construction unit for this reason alone.
The Varginha incident?
I had to google a bit of this. It seems somewhat far out there if I'm being honest.
What's up with anal probes?
I think we both know where this thread would go if I touch on this topic.
Are the female aliens sexy?
The ones with or without probes?
The Zimbabwe/Ruwa school incident where grays revealed themselves?
It doesn't seem likely but here is the kicker. Based on what they described I believe them minus a few things they said.
Do you know of any direct contact of agents by them (John Ramirez, CIA)?
Never heard of direct contact started from their end. That doesn't mean we haven't.
(On the fool's-errand secrecy point.)
One of the minor reasons I'm here, we agree. I do think the initial panic would be really bad, especially for religious communities.
Does the recently disclosed Trinity case (Jacques Vallée's book) have any truth?
No idea.
Could these crashes have happened on purpose?
I doubt it but answered this earlier in better detail.
Before the 20th century, have they influenced human culture at all?
The US wasn't sure since we don't have information to use. The Sumerian stories were a common topic when talking about "At least 100 years". I think it's odd young civilizations knew things they were not supposed to know that far back.
The Eric Davis memo (link).
Some things in this memo track, A lot of things don't maybe because I lack knowledge in that area. I did find the date on the third page interesting because 2002 was a very unique year for us.
You are making stuff up.
Ok.
What do the aliens/pilots look like?
See above.
So we've communicated with them — how, how many times? What are they like?
Extremely upset if the threat is believable like war with countries etc. … Anytime the topic came up there was no special mention of communication types so I assume orally. Quite a few times. See the zoo keeper comment above. It's hard to get them to respond to us in general.
You just described Atlantis.
The US didn't agree this was the case because they didn't have much faith pooled into one Greek and rare mentions.
*OP (continued):* The next post is long so it may be two parts.
I'll be nice and tell you what the image is — I was using it as a LARP litmus test. That image was supposedly one of the Skinwalker Ranch victims Garry Nolan studied; some personnel who had close UAP encounters had emotional shifts, headaches, radiation targeting the brain — he thinks it's what Havana Syndrome is.
This is the internet Anon you don't have to be nice. You should be testing me I'm not against it. … Sounds a bit far out there but alright. … Some tools used for abduction cause confusion and some calm etc. Some also leave radiation but nothing crazy.
If aliens understood human physiology, they could influence the brain with tech we don't understand — mind control implications.
I can't speak to that area much. As I said previously the tools aren't friendly ones. They would serve a better purpose wrangling tards than ensuring a patient is content.
Friend, we can assist with your liver cancer if you accept some Truth through faith.
I'd rather die from cancer.
I had a white orb psychically interact with me once.
Nothing comes to mind other than the "hammers". You can't relay voice or thoughts through them so I'm not sure.
Twice I've seen UFOs within hours of catastrophic trauma. Related or coincidence?
They have regulars for abduction. We never observed any repeated stops related to that though.
Do you still believe in God?
Absolutely not.
(To those wishing him well on the cancer.)
It has a weird way of making you appreciate everything. I actually taste the water I drink now if that even makes sense. Appreciate it though I'm pretty fucked though.
Family is important.
They definitely do not view us as family. Tools comment.
Has there been internal discussion about the origins of these beings and/or the mobile facility?
Only amongst ourselves since we see the direction they enter/leave the solar system briefly. The higher-ups definitely know it just wasn't part of what we did. Once it leaves the planet ignore it.
You said "100 years" as an estimate — is that the facility itself?
The US believes it's one extreme or the other. It arrived around 100 years ago and started the process of discovery and construction VS It's been here since long ago and oh hey there is a ton of civilizations talking about this for ages.
Did it come here from space, long ago?
From space yes, from long ago I'm not entirely sure and neither was the US. I lean more towards recent contact.
I'm guessing the "biology department" has little communication with yours?
I wouldn't know they exist if I didn't see them. We get a basic rundown the higher-ups give us. If we send information forward it is always passed along.
Any idea what happens to the ships/planes/people the construction unit disappears? Are they suffering?
Destroyed near instantly, with no suffering.
Falling for a faked image isn't helping your larp's credibility.
Hey, look at this photo of an animal through fog and rain. Oh, that was a plastic one sorry. I could have just ignored you entirely.
Can you draw some symbols for us? Does the language look linear like ours?
I can't remember anything specific if I'm being honest. It all looks the same to me. Yes, but there are soft corners and things like "dots" but not many.
Is the Construction Unit like a Queen Bee to the UFO "workers"? Any hunches on spacetime manipulation?
If you mean for the Construction Unit vs UFO's we wondered that too. Never heard any ideas pitched other than the engines/gravity causing time dilation.
Spill the official internal name.
Should I send you a copy of my driver's license too?
You're contradicting UAP data and acting like you have access to all compartmentalized DIA departments.
If it provides any context I knew a lot less until I managed the team the last few years. You should be skeptical.
*OP (continued):* I might be on later but if not then the afternoon.
Are they following the SpaceX operations?
They respond rather quickly to any type of rocketry. I imagine they will be.
It made no noise, was completely black metal — no being could survive that sharp turn.
They make noise but not very much of it. Also they can stop innertia when we still struggle with that.
Has any writing been discovered on the crafts or tools? Linked to any known language?
Yes. Yes. I'm not sure but it doesn't look like anything I've seen. I covered this already but as for the mercury comment no.
If the Navy knows where the facility is, why not constantly track it? A lot of Bob Lazar is proven BS. Describe the craft interior in detail.
They don't. Sauce? I already did this. It's always cramped and hard to stand fully upright in. For reference I'm 5'8. There is almost never a storage facility unless it is dedicated to something for the craft. There is always a method of interacting with the craft. Tools are not freely placed around the craft and have dedicated placement.
Have you only seen orbs ("hammers"), or discs too? The Tic Tacs/cigar shapes are transports nobody's gotten hold of, right?
The "hammers"? If so yes I've used them. No? Be more specific? Cigar shaped are very rare. Correct we were told finding one would be career changing. We suspect they are transports but ultimately don't know. I've never seen a disc.
I'm curious what you think of them.
Prior to the zoo keeper comment I thought they looked down on us as vile and worthless with intent to destroy everything around us.
You can't take a damaged craft and just reassemble it — who acts like that (ripping out the RAM, cutting wires)?
It's akin to fixing a sword; you need to know how/what it's made from to reforge it? You could use other materials/broken swords to mend it, but it wont be the same. Are you aware of? and if so any thoughts? [Salvatore Cezar Pais patent US10144532B2]
What role will Space Force play in disclosure?
Openly stated to us discovery for internal use and disinformation to the public.
What can we as a populace do to encourage your bosses to lighten up?
This has always been on my mind. I think if we convinced another nation like China or Russia to come out the US would have to come out as well. I think having the USAF release their footage was a way to jumpstart Space X in a way.
The Pentagon reported the legit UAPs are "off-world vehicles not made on this earth," but you claim they're made in an ocean facility.
I stated multiple times we've seen them come and go from the planet. We suspect the construction facility is capable of space travel as well.
He also said they were all unmanned.
Reading comprehension issue. I said most of them are unmanned today. This is not strictly the case and in prior years we dealt with piloted craft quite often.
People with clearances that large don't just get on 4chan.
You're not wrong and if it makes you feel better watching my internet take a shit last night made me panic a bit if I'm being honest. I could have just ignored your post too.
Various agencies give him free access.
I do not have free access to everything. Visiting crash sites comes with a lot of information by default though.
You provide zero evidence — burden of proof.
Was I supposed to steal data from work and post it freely here? How about a copy of my clearance or work badge? Yes, Anon let me just out myself completely.
So E115 provides the weak gravity field and the engine amplifies it through resonance? Was Bob Lazar's leaked language complete?
The gravity field remains the same for E115 but the output from the engine produces almost all of the gravity used for travel. I've never seen it can you post a picture of it?
Any info about crop circles?
Never seen one or heard of it being relevant.
I have a few questions... [long batch]
You have a lot so I'm not answering every single thing.
Any unusual effects on the environment/wildlife?
No, they do study animals.
Why/how are they avoiding Mexico?
One area around there is a bad crash zone for them.
Why was 2002 a big year?
A lot of activities and changes in operation both for them and us. A lot of secrecy issues surfaced that year as a result. Funding also jumped through the roof.
Is this job stressful?
Very. Strained my marriage greatly.
Does it have anything to do with your illness?
I've wondered about that but ultimately I'll never know.
What training/qualifications are needed?
Your record needs to be clean as fuck. Education can vary.
Do you use public sightings or your own agency's intel?
Agency intel all the way. Nearly all of it is passed verbally in person.
How does the government respond to UFOs coming/going through the atmosphere/ocean?
Wait for crashes, the only time everyone is all hands on deck is if they screw with nukes. We mostly just watch and wait for them to fuck up.
Just to steal/learn tech?
This.
It's MJ-12 — just say it, coward.
That term is more of a history lesson than anything now. Would you like my address too?
If you're dying, why not just tell us the department name and share photos of documents?
I'd like to appreciate what little I have left. See the above post about last night.
Why isn't cloaking technology employed by UAPs? It shouldn't be that hard to bend light.
Fuck, I wish I could show you one of the images from our training. Sometimes we get lucky and find very odd variants of UFOs. Same setup as usual but with interesting "additions".
This is a distraction from Epstein, Nord Stream, etc.
Will this help? Fuck Epstein.
Do you know where in space they come from? Any ancient craft found? What's it like keeping the secret? What do you do for work?
Higher-ups knew, I never did. None that I saw. I Travel and do inspections for the government. Boring stuff really.
Here's something about Antarctica — any idea what's going on there?
First I've heard of it. Makes me wonder if there were others that did what I did but in different areas.
Plasma physics has developed greatly in the past few decades.
You should be paying attention to things like this long after I leave. Laser technology too.
We're going to hit the bump limit before OP comes back.
Half the thread wants me to keep going so I'll likely remake. Might need to wait a bit before the weekend will be busy for me.
The abductees who are 'returned' and monitored — how are they dealt with? Why are certain individuals selected?
I suspect another department handles that. We do nothing with them from my end. Not all but they like picking from remote areas exposed to radiation or disease.
Could they remove someone from a building in a large city without civilians noticing?
They have to get quite close to start the abduction process. Never seen it happen freely in a crowded city.
*OP (continued):* Taking a break until later this evening. As I mentioned weekend is busy if the thread dies I'll attempt to do another.
Thread 2 — May 4, 2023
OP's opening post (No.34704869)
It's been a bit of a rough week for me. It's still going to be a rough week for me so I may not reply as much. Drop your questions and criticisms and I'll answer them as best I can. I'll address some of the other questions I saw elsewhere below.
I don't know anything about the moon man post. No interest in a trip code it sounds pretentious. You should be skeptical. Over time though I think a lot of people will find themselves coming back to what I've said.
[Links to the first thread archive.]
How do other countries know about the underwater facility?
The same way we do. They've been looking at crash sites as long as we have.
You said it's all hands on deck if craft mess with our nukes — does this happen often?
Correct. About once every 10 years for the US. We suspect other countries have had similar issues and reactions.
What kind of reaction is there when these events occur?
A higher-up joked months after the last one I saw that "The phone rings everywhere but the president's office" In the same instance, I mentioned above they deployed multiple aircraft and a sub with serious intent. The sub didn't arrive in time. Fighters probably never saw the end coming.
Is this related to the underwater structure Gordon Cooper sighted, that got a Discovery show cancelled?
Nothing in those pictures rings a bell. If you see the construction facility you'll know. You can't miss it. As for if they were instructed to leave that could be true.
Your answer on tools makes you seem like a LARP — there must have been more advanced/intruding tools than a "toothpick".
I had to think a bit about this one for multiple reasons and I think I'll cover the abduction tools in greater detail. There are tools that induce a child-like state or something akin to having a stroke, we covered that. The tools I didn't talk about are ones that are designed to take objects the size of pills and push them deep into your tissue and stomach. These tools aren't friendly and don't account for extreme pain. There's also another tool that looks like a circular battery you would find in a key fob. Designed for keeping your eyes open when deployed. It also stops the eye from moving almost perfectly.
Why is there so much alien activity in Mexico?
Bermuda Triangle is right next door to Mexico. They also avoid certain parts because they crash there often.
The ayys are hanging out with an Indian tribe in Sonora and giving them tours of other planets.
Sauce?
What do they do with a drone once it finishes its task?
They are not exclusively drones. It returns to the construction facility.
You said they only make them right before use?
Yes built to spec every time they launch as far as we can tell.
What do they do with them after use?
Based on heat signatures likely smelted back down into parts.
This is probably related to Blue Eisenhower November whether he knows it or not.
Explain? I'm learning as well.
Why this image to start your threads?
Saw the release on TV and laughed because the USAF is so far in the dark.
Is this a project you worked on?
Not that specific UFO probably not. The one in the picture of my post is definitely real.
What was your reporting structure at the UAP job?
I'm hesitant to go over this in detail. I would love to explain though.
Any guidelines for releasing info to the public?
For me, it was "You know what the USAF knows and nothing else ever" and things like the Space Force are going to be disinformation based.
Any idea why new management was so hell-bent on changing course?
New management coming in thinking they can make sweeping changes and "fix" everything while impressing their leadership if I had to guess.
*OP (continued):* Should be on tomorrow night if all goes well.
Are they using resources from Earth to build these ships/drones?
We think the harder-to-find elements come from off-world but yes partially.
So we'd have the means to do the same, and just lack the knowledge?
Lack of knowledge and a few other elements. The thought was passed around frequently about the level of heat required to shape the alloy. We've wondered if that's another reason it sits in the ocean.
Bump, where is this UAP fag.
CTRL+F exists Anon.
What form of language do these aliens use?
I mentioned that in the previous thread. I asked for images from another Anon. It looks similar I wanna see more.
Where would they rank on the Kardashev scale?
Not my area of knowledge.
Perhaps they want us to know they exist?
I think they don't care that we know. If anything the threat of being able to arm our nukes is enough alone.
Are they carbon-based lifeforms like us?
Not my area again, from what I could see and tell yes.
Is there a chance we are their creation/experiment?
We both look very similar. It wouldn't surprise me and I'm inclined to think so.
Time already told with the holes in OP's first post — you were samefagging.
I can't prove anything here but its not me. I think your community is split on the religion shit though.
What are your theories on the UFO frenzy of February — they downed 3 craft then nada?
We never see that many downed. Unless we found a good way to intercept them.
Can they manipulate consciousness? Are they related to life after death?
No idea.
Does Karen Seamount in the Atlantic between Bermuda and VA have anything to do with ayys?
No idea. It moves constantly and doesn't really leave traces.
You replied "the ones with or without probes?" — clarify. Do the aliens have dickgirls?
I figured most people realized the anal probe joke was an obvious cue we haven't seen any females. We did talk in great depth about the reasons why. We think it's mainly a military operation or they just don't have them hence male only.
Could we find evidence the mothership extracts materials from the ocean floor or crust?
It sends out UFOs to extract quite often yes. We have yet to really see them mine the ocean floor since it's harder to know that far down. The last miner we looked at had a huge haul of gold iron and silver. No dirt.
Where does the most exotic material (moscovium) come from?
Off-world.
I don't think element 115 is a big deal off Earth — their alloys are what's amazing.
The main source of power. We really wanted to see how the construction facility is powered. Correct.
Element 115 nuclei last milliseconds before disintegrating under lab conditions.
Correct. Still a massive problem.
(On a time-traveler/language-capability question.)
Not really my field of expertise. Time travel was never mentioned seriously. Do you have more of the image you posted? Serious question.
What races of ayys do we know actually exist? Are underground reptilians real?
Never had another one mentioned other than the ones I described.
(To an aggressive skeptic post.)
Seek help.
(To a "I've seen more UFOs than you" poster.)
Shit like this common here?
If they interfere with nuclear threats, why didn't they prevent the WW2 nukes?
We talked about this a lot and honestly, we never came to a solid conclusion other than they may not have realized our capability until we used them. They were interested in test sites but never actually stopped the ones we set off.
Do they have portable weapons like phasers or ray guns?
They do have weapons. I've never seen or held one though and suspect the first team always took them away. Looking at the abduction tools and the general capability of the construction facility I wouldn't want to face off against one.
OP asked for a source while being unwilling to provide his own proof. "Trust me bro / two more weeks."
Don't confuse interest with the burden of proof. Sure, let me just walk on through the golden gates and get that for you anon. Would you like to me drop off your resume while I'm there? What?
Is this factory craft on duty as a fire-watch of sorts?
The US believes this is the case. That or it's preparation for something more.
Is their population enough to say they're a colony coexisting here?
It wouldn't surprise me if they had a base off-world nearby or even on Earth. We never saw consistent stops that would indicate a base. I also now believe it may not be the only facility with everyone talking about the artic. These craft never really went near the artic either.
What resources are they mining/attracted to?
They consistently mine gold.
Want to talk about mapping or LIDAR?
Interesting you mention lidar.
Any tech we don't know how to use/distribute yet?
You should keep watching the development of laser technology. Looking at it from a civ with a higher understanding it looks like the "do all" tool. Mining quite literally takes the resource out of the rock without leaving much dirt. China still scares us.
What do they know about the underwater pyramid and complex near Cuba?
First I've heard of it.
Did you work for the government before your UFO job? What did you study?
Yes. Absolutely not. You can probably guess easily though.
Is the facility related to the 2019 incident west of San Diego?
Rumors and questions because we weren't tracking them at the time.
Do our conventional weapons have any capability against the UAPs?
They look like they would go down to a pistol. In reality, though I'm not sure.
What about the lasers being tested against UAVs and rockets?
Wouldn't surprise me even slightly. They do nearly everything with light and lasers.
What are your thoughts on the Baltic Sea anomaly?
Doesn't stand out to me. I also don't know what a few decades under an ocean does to them either. Speaking of which the main construction facility does not rust or deteriorate from what we can tell.
It was stopping electrical equipment when ships sailed over it.
They have this ability.
Did anything surprising or unexpected ever happen at the crash sites?
The first thread has a few instances. The first body I ever saw spooked me almost didn't think it was real.
Why not tell everyone if there's so much evidence?
Because most governments think the local population is stupid. Their not wrong.
*OP (continued):* On for a bit here and there today.
Hey, are you that esoteric essays guy from that Facebook group?
No, I only use 4chan anonymously as my form of social media, no facebook or fb chats, no discord, no Twitter, etc. This isn't because I have any illusions this place can't be just as easily monitored and used to form dossiers on its posters, but because I psychologically prefer being lost in a sea of anonymity, not accumulating a "personal history" or "identity" around random online posts I write to kill the time.
You're not Air Force?
Air Force? No.
Does the Caryn Seamount have any connection to ayys?
The construction facility never goes near it. I can say that much.
(To the poster claiming crash sites are illusions.)
You think UFO crash sites are illusions. Crazy people don't excite me.
Could a human physically best them?
I'm not an expert but probably. Their size and frame are one reason they don't make it through crashes often.
They seem more talkative to the general population — why? Do they hate glowniggers?
Perhaps but I've never heard of them being outwardly pleasant to anyone.
Would it be easier for them to mine gold from an asteroid and bring it to Earth?
I haven't really covered much on the resourcing end of operations but we believe they do this for certain elements. Gold doesn't appear to be one of them.
Is there evidence of a culture — decoration, anything distinctive? Is it purely efficiency/engineering-driven?
I have never seen anything emotionally driven in their craft.
So maybe they really are soulless / drones / genetically degenerate?
That's one theory. The US mostly believes they are just military as I previously discussed.
Do you know the stealth capabilities of the ships? Is there a baseline?
These crafts are so rare we actually almost never see them crash because we can't track them. We only recently started finding craft with stealth capabilities. Maybe 1 in 20 has stealth technology. Different "internals" same stealth tech. Made to spec like I said. "I have to perform two abductions. Make me a craft to fit two prisoners and four crew and shape it to fit perfectly with all my tools."
Did he quit responding after being called out as a samefag?
No, I quit responding because chemo takes its toll and partially [because the board is a sea of shit responses]. It's actually quite shocking how off-target the board is in general.
Answer my post, it's been two days.
Not responding specifically to you has actually been amusing. Also, [links the Dunning–Kruger effect].
*OP (continued):* I'll respond to a few just before I stopped. Once again if the thread closes I'll make a new one if time and energy permit. There is a lockbox that I've asked to be opened after my death. Hopefully part of that makes it to this board as I've instructed.
You said we've pulled parts from these craft and made our own — what have we used them for?
Modifying them to fire human weapons is a big thing. Generally trying to test and research ways to reduce inertia.
Are they exclusively test-bed vehicles or do they get used for ISR?
Testing is all I've heard. I imagine we didn't stop there and I'm just uninformed.
Have we taken them out of atmosphere?
Yes, a lot.
(On a posted drone image/language.)
I saw more in the thread. I was curious about the language on it.
How extensive are the DoD underground facilities and tunnel systems?
The facility I worked in was underground and ground level. They span for miles. Definitely not DoD so no idea.
Any activity in Florida?
You have a better chance of seeing them in the middle of nowhere. They don't venture to populated areas often.
(On a female/military-only follow-up.)
Not my area of knowledge. I doubt it.
Is "element 115" really 100% proven to be moscovium, or a codename to hide some arcane power source?
I've never heard of an arcane power source. The older members of our team when I first joined joking called the construction facility Atlantis in passing once or twice.
Where was your facility — was it S4 where Bob Lazar worked?
I'm not answering the top part. I think I answered the bottom part in the other thread.
*OP (continued):* I wanted to go out of my way to answer this one.
Did you ever see tools with antigravitational properties, or portable antigravity devices?
Very few. Lots of them emit radiation.
Why are some close encounters seen with red lights and some orange?
Orange is a mineral/bio-scanning mode. Since most people see orange up close you're likely being scouted/selected for an abduction. It can see your heart beating and even the valves pushing the blood inside just to add some perspective.
Red should be "defence" mode — why the red lights?
Correct. Red lights are considered defense mode. If red lights are present chances are the craft wants to leave and has to keep an eye on you while they wrap up. Red also allows very accurate calculation of distance and can detect hostility based on facial expression etc. If a weapon is fired the "beam" is white.
Do these ships emit radiation? Landing places always have radiation traces — BS or real?
Yes. This is mostly correct. The source is not the landing and is the craft itself.
Is any obtained tech being used commercially?
Lasers. You see lasers everywhere even in retail.
A super-high-security facility hiding in plain sight?
Both.
(On the risk of posting here.)
I'm pretty fucked already. Not too worried. I say that but the internet glitched the night I made the first thread and I panicked enough to sleep with a revolver.
*OP (continued):* I skipped some questions to tackle ones I haven't been asked about sorry.
Are the ayys aware of computer tech?
They know about ours yes. I doubt they could operate ours with our input devices though.
Do they have something like digital communication?
Chance communication to computer and you kind of nail it. Describing their version of a console/computer is really hard. It works by holding it and thinking about what you want. If you are distracted even slightly it goes to shit.
Is there any truth to "Dynamic Theory" by Pharis Williams? Did your department have interest in that physics?
Neat questions for another time, thread is almost over
— End of transcript. This was the complete, unedited text of both original 4chan threads. —
People Also Ask
What is the 4chan UFO whistleblower post?
In April and May 2023, an anonymous poster on 4chan's /x/ board claimed intimate knowledge of what the US government knows about UFOs, and answered questions across two long threads. This page is the complete, unedited text of both threads.
What did the 4chan UFO whistleblower claim?
That UFOs are mostly unmanned drones built to spec by a mobile construction facility hidden in the ocean, powered by Element 115 and gravity manipulation, run by AI, and associated with gray beings who treat humanity like animals in a zoo — reacting mainly to nuclear weapons and war.
Is the 4chan UFO whistleblower real?
The claims are unverified and anonymous. This page preserves the original text so you can read it in full and judge for yourself. It is presented as internet folklore, not established fact.
Where is the underwater UFO base?
The poster placed the mobile construction facility in the ocean, associated with the Bermuda Triangle region, and said it has been active on Earth for at least 100 years, possibly since around 4000 BC.
About this page
The "4chan UFO whistleblower" refers to two threads posted anonymously on 4chan's paranormal board (/x/) in the spring of 2023, in which the poster — who said he was terminally ill and no longer had anything to lose — described what he claimed the United States secretly knows about UFOs and UAPs. The threads spread rapidly across Reddit, YouTube and X and remain one of the most discussed pieces of UFO folklore online.
This page exists to preserve that primary text in a clean, readable form. The claims are unverified and presented as-is for research, reference and curiosity — read them and decide for yourself.
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